# 12 Week template vs the others

**URL:** <https://forum.barbellmedicine.com/t/12-week-template-vs-the-others/1437>\
**Category:** Programming Discussion\
**Created:** [April 2, 2018, 6:45pm UTC](https://forum.barbellmedicine.com/t/12-week-template-vs-the-others/1437 "2018-04-02T18:45:37Z")\
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**Author:** ![Euby](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.barbellmedicine.com/euby/32/1206_2.png) [@Euby](https://forum.barbellmedicine.com/u/Euby)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 2:20am UTC](https://forum.barbellmedicine.com/t/12-week-template-vs-the-others/1437/21 "2018-06-20T02:20:48Z")

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> [@Dr.Hades](#):
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> Since you guys are into that. Can someone tell me if you miss a lot by choosing the 3-day version of the 12-week template? I´m afraid I´m gonna have only three days in a week with 2 hours to hit the gym. Do I miss a lot of volume? Does anybody did the 12-week with 3-days comdification? Thanks a bunch

Yes, doing the 3-day modification is less volume than the 4-day version, especially bench/press volume. Will it make a difference? Hard to say, and I think it depends on what you’ve been doing. For me, it was great, and was an increase in volume over what I was previously doing. Only way to know is give it a try.

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**Author:** ![leGDE](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.barbellmedicine.com/legde/32/76_2.png) [@leGDE](https://forum.barbellmedicine.com/u/leGDE)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 2:56am UTC](https://forum.barbellmedicine.com/t/12-week-template-vs-the-others/1437/22 "2018-06-22T02:56:27Z")

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Did you try doing 12wk 3 days/week and then run it again 4 days/week?

Would be curious to hear results on that.

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**Author:** ![Euby](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.barbellmedicine.com/euby/32/1206_2.png) [@Euby](https://forum.barbellmedicine.com/u/Euby)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2018, 1:45pm UTC](https://forum.barbellmedicine.com/t/12-week-template-vs-the-others/1437/23 "2018-06-25T13:45:42Z")

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> [@leGDE](#):
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> Did you try doing 12wk 3 days/week and then run it again 4 days/week?
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> Would be curious to hear results on that.

I don’t have direct results to compare, but again I think the differences are so small as to be minimal if even measurable at all.

The 12-week program is a STRENGTH template. If you are getting stronger using it, then it is working. You will notice that Austin, Jordan, Alan and Leah all train 4 days per week. They are in the advanced spectrum and need that kind of training volume. Austin has said that the 12-week template is MOST representative of their low intensity/high volume philosophy around providing an appropriate stress for those who need it.

Do I need that much volume? Do you? Hard to say, but if I made progress on the 3-day modification, why would I need to do the 4-day? How much stronger would I have gotten? Perhaps I would have applied TOO MUCH stress, accumulated too much fatigue? Maybe progress would have been about the same, except I would have invested more time for it?

The difference between good progress and great progress is not that much…maybe not even measurable objectively.

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