# 4Day GPP-Hypertrophy: HBBS is Painful - LBBS ok?
**URL:** https://forum.barbellmedicine.com/t/4day-gpp-hypertrophy-hbbs-is-painful-lbbs-ok/5473
**Category:** Training Q&A \[Moderated\]
**Created:** [April 13, 2019, 9:36pm UTC](https://forum.barbellmedicine.com/t/4day-gpp-hypertrophy-hbbs-is-painful-lbbs-ok/5473 "2019-04-13T21:36:12Z")
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### Author:  [@ckehoe](https://forum.barbellmedicine.com/u/ckehoe)
#### Post date: [April 13, 2019, 9:36pm UTC](https://forum.barbellmedicine.com/t/4day-gpp-hypertrophy-hbbs-is-painful-lbbs-ok/5473/1 "2019-04-13T21:36:12Z")
Doing 4 DAY GPP Hypertrophy. Day 3 calls for high bar or safety squat bar. I am a wuss when it comes to high bar - smashing of the traps is too painful for me. Gym has no SSB, and there seems to be one pad in the whole gym (and that is often missing). I presume I can just do low bar?
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### Author:  [@Austin\_Baraki](https://forum.barbellmedicine.com/u/Austin_Baraki)
#### Post date: [April 13, 2019, 10:12pm UTC](https://forum.barbellmedicine.com/t/4day-gpp-hypertrophy-hbbs-is-painful-lbbs-ok/5473/2 "2019-04-13T22:12:30Z")
That is fine.
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### Author:  [@jwls](https://forum.barbellmedicine.com/u/jwls)
#### Post date: [April 15, 2019, 10:56am UTC](https://forum.barbellmedicine.com/t/4day-gpp-hypertrophy-hbbs-is-painful-lbbs-ok/5473/3 "2019-04-15T10:56:00Z")
I used to be in the same situation doing LBBS basically throughout my whole training career and then trying and finding out that HBBS are a real PITA. I came back experimenting with them on tempo squats one day because I figured the weights were relatively light and my low back really got fried during LBBS tempo squats. What I then figured out was that I was actually trying to carry the bar too high up the traps. Try experimenting with the empty bar carrying it a bit lower until you find it sitting comfortably. It might take some adjustments to your gripping style as well.