# Double Progression and RPE/RIR

**URL:** <https://forum.barbellmedicine.com/t/double-progression-and-rpe-rir/11735>\
**Category:** Training Q&A \[Moderated\]\
**Created:** [December 4, 2021, 1:27pm UTC](https://forum.barbellmedicine.com/t/double-progression-and-rpe-rir/11735 "2021-12-04T13:27:54Z")\
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**Author:** ![fbc91](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ec9cab/32.png) [@fbc91](https://forum.barbellmedicine.com/u/fbc91)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2021, 1:27pm UTC](https://forum.barbellmedicine.com/t/double-progression-and-rpe-rir/11735/1 "2021-12-04T13:27:54Z")

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On a recent podcast, I believe you said you don’t program double progression (increasing reps and weight simultaneously), because you can’t use RPE with that method.

Why not? Is it too hard too judge accurately with reps changing from workout-to-workout or week-to-week?

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**Author:** ![Austin\_Baraki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.barbellmedicine.com/austin_baraki/32/1095_2.png) [@Austin\_Baraki](https://forum.barbellmedicine.com/u/Austin_Baraki)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2021, 1:50pm UTC](https://forum.barbellmedicine.com/t/double-progression-and-rpe-rir/11735/2 "2021-12-04T13:50:36Z")

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I’m not sure what you’re referring to.

Please provide the podcast number and timestamp of the comment in question so we can better address this.

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**Author:** ![fbc91](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ec9cab/32.png) [@fbc91](https://forum.barbellmedicine.com/u/fbc91)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2021, 10:05pm UTC](https://forum.barbellmedicine.com/t/double-progression-and-rpe-rir/11735/3 "2021-12-04T22:05:43Z")

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Sorry. It is podcast 160, time stamp 44:40.

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**Author:** ![Jordan\_Feigenbaum](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.barbellmedicine.com/jordan_feigenbaum/32/1315_2.png) [@Jordan\_Feigenbaum](https://forum.barbellmedicine.com/u/Jordan_Feigenbaum)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2021, 4:01pm UTC](https://forum.barbellmedicine.com/t/double-progression-and-rpe-rir/11735/4 "2021-12-05T16:01:33Z")

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> [@fbc91](#):
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> Sorry. It is podcast 160, time stamp 44:40.

This is from my IG live and the reasons I gave are why I don’t program the “double progression” method. I didn’t say you can’t use RPE, though increasing both reps and weight simultaneously make it more difficult to judge compared to previous, recent efforts.

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**Author:** ![fbc91](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ec9cab/32.png) [@fbc91](https://forum.barbellmedicine.com/u/fbc91)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2021, 4:39pm UTC](https://forum.barbellmedicine.com/t/double-progression-and-rpe-rir/11735/5 "2021-12-05T16:39:16Z")

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> [@Jordan\_Feigenbaum](#):
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> This is from my IG live and the reasons I gave are why I don’t program the “double progression” method. I didn’t say you can’t use RPE, though increasing both reps and weight simultaneously make it more difficult to judge compared to previous, recent efforts.

Understood. Thank you for the clarification!