# Dry needling

**URL:** <https://forum.barbellmedicine.com/t/dry-needling/3055>\
**Category:** Medical Q&A \[Moderated\]\
**Created:** [August 20, 2018, 12:57am UTC](https://forum.barbellmedicine.com/t/dry-needling/3055 "2018-08-20T00:57:48Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 4\
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**Author:** ![andycrawford](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.barbellmedicine.com/andycrawford/32/1400_2.png) [@andycrawford](https://forum.barbellmedicine.com/u/andycrawford)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2018, 12:57am UTC](https://forum.barbellmedicine.com/t/dry-needling/3055/1 "2018-08-20T00:57:48Z")

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A PT friend recently got a certificate in dry needling. Seems hocus pocus to me. Have any of you seen anything other than a placebo effect? I’m sure I’ll be seeing plenty of posts about how wonderful it is soon. I’ll try not to argue with them. Haha

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**Author:** ![Austin\_Baraki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.barbellmedicine.com/austin_baraki/32/1095_2.png) [@Austin\_Baraki](https://forum.barbellmedicine.com/u/Austin_Baraki)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2018, 1:48pm UTC](https://forum.barbellmedicine.com/t/dry-needling/3055/2 "2018-08-20T13:48:31Z")

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Correct, complete placebo.

No difference compared to sham needling.

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**Author:** ![Sean\_Herbison](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.barbellmedicine.com/sean_herbison/32/787_2.png) [@Sean\_Herbison](https://forum.barbellmedicine.com/u/Sean_Herbison)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 3:48pm UTC](https://forum.barbellmedicine.com/t/dry-needling/3055/3 "2018-08-22T15:48:52Z")

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No, no, it’s completely different from acupuncture. Because reasons.

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**Author:** ![Matthew\_Rupiper\_PT](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.barbellmedicine.com/matthew_rupiper_pt/32/686_2.png) [@Matthew\_Rupiper\_PT](https://forum.barbellmedicine.com/u/Matthew_Rupiper_PT)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 9:40pm UTC](https://forum.barbellmedicine.com/t/dry-needling/3055/4 "2018-08-22T21:40:26Z")

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As a physical therapist that’s taken a dry needling course, the evidence and science agrees with Austin Baraki (he may place it in the “Silly Bullshit” category :). Those with financial and intellectual incentives will attempt to justify its use through numerous mechanisms and tooth fairy science. Take a look at a few of these:

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Enjoy!