# Pendlay row, evil?
**URL:** https://forum.barbellmedicine.com/t/pendlay-row-evil/14835
**Category:** Training Discussion
**Tags:** pendlay-row
**Created:** [October 22, 2024, 4:14pm UTC](https://forum.barbellmedicine.com/t/pendlay-row-evil/14835 "2024-10-22T16:14:07Z")
**Posts on this page:** 4
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### Author:  [@crilloan](https://forum.barbellmedicine.com/u/crilloan)
#### Post date: [October 22, 2024, 4:14pm UTC](https://forum.barbellmedicine.com/t/pendlay-row-evil/14835/1 "2024-10-22T16:14:07Z")
Is Pendlay row more frequent in the templates now?
I can never get them to feel good and it feels like they bust up the back of my shoulder/shoulderblades
How do you handle them or do you allways exchange them for some other exercise?
/C
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### Author:  [@LeahBBM](https://forum.barbellmedicine.com/u/LeahBBM)
#### Post date: [October 24, 2024, 10:58pm UTC](https://forum.barbellmedicine.com/t/pendlay-row-evil/14835/2 "2024-10-24T22:58:37Z")
I actually think it might be programmed less, but I haven’t tracked that. What template are you doing now?
They are a reasonable amount of work for your upper back and you could feel that in your shoulder blades but I don’t expect them to really fatigue your shoulders much. Are you doing them regularly (ie allowing time to adapt to them) and using a reasonable RPE?
But if you really don’t like Pendlay Rows, other rows are great too!
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### Author:  [@crilloan](https://forum.barbellmedicine.com/u/crilloan)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2024, 6:30pm UTC](https://forum.barbellmedicine.com/t/pendlay-row-evil/14835/3 "2024-10-25T18:30:21Z")
Was a bit surpriced that it was a default row movement in the BB II. I thought it was a power movement.
If I understand correctly its supposed to induce less fatigue than standard barbell row and done in a more explosive way?
I think the “jerking” motion of it irritates my tendons/muscle attachments
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### Author:  [@LeahBBM](https://forum.barbellmedicine.com/u/LeahBBM)
#### Post date: [October 27, 2024, 2:50pm UTC](https://forum.barbellmedicine.com/t/pendlay-row-evil/14835/4 "2024-10-27T14:50:53Z")
If you want to keep Pendlays in the block, I would suggest doing them more “row like” and with less jerking or explosion since you’re feeling it so much in your shoulders. So I would try dialing that back a bit, still rowing from the floor, limiting body english (but feel free to keep some in), and concentrating on the “row” movement with your elbows going toward the ceiling.
I like this video of Alan’s [How to Row](https://youtu.be/RQU8wZPbioA)
And there is a quick look at several variations here.