# Press substitue due to arthritis.
**URL:** https://forum.barbellmedicine.com/t/press-substitue-due-to-arthritis/4696
**Category:** Training Q&A \[Moderated\]
**Created:** [January 19, 2019, 8:57pm UTC](https://forum.barbellmedicine.com/t/press-substitue-due-to-arthritis/4696 "2019-01-19T20:57:27Z")
**Posts on this page:** 5
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### Author:  [@Brian46pd](https://forum.barbellmedicine.com/u/Brian46pd)
#### Post date: [January 19, 2019, 8:57pm UTC](https://forum.barbellmedicine.com/t/press-substitue-due-to-arthritis/4696/1 "2019-01-19T20:57:27Z")
I will be starting the 12 week strength template in 2 weeks. I have arthritis in both shoulders and am looking to either substitute the press or omit the exercise completely. I have no issues with the flat or incline bench. I have tried different press variations such as dumbbells, landmine and machine but always feel pain. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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### Author:  [@Austin\_Baraki](https://forum.barbellmedicine.com/u/Austin_Baraki)
#### Post date: [January 20, 2019, 1:44am UTC](https://forum.barbellmedicine.com/t/press-substitue-due-to-arthritis/4696/2 "2019-01-20T01:44:54Z")
It seems odd that you can incline bench without issues, but a landmine press causes problems, since they’re fairly similar.
Pin presses would be another option.
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### Author:  [@Brian46pd](https://forum.barbellmedicine.com/u/Brian46pd)
#### Post date: [January 20, 2019, 1:52pm UTC](https://forum.barbellmedicine.com/t/press-substitue-due-to-arthritis/4696/3 "2019-01-20T13:52:24Z")
I should have been more descriptive when I said incline bench, I am able to perform a low incline, 15-20 degree angle, anything close to a 45 degree angle produces pain. I should have been more concise with my question, what I am asking is should I substitute the press with a low incline press or do nothing in place of the press because the bench is worked on days 2, 3 and for with regularity. Sorry for the confusion. Thanks
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### Author:  [@Austin\_Baraki](https://forum.barbellmedicine.com/u/Austin_Baraki)
#### Post date: [January 20, 2019, 4:54pm UTC](https://forum.barbellmedicine.com/t/press-substitue-due-to-arthritis/4696/4 "2019-01-20T16:54:29Z")
If you can’t find any pressing variation that you can tolerate, no one is _forcing_ you to do it. It’s just an uncommon scenario in general, as we’re often able to find something that’s tolerable - even if it requires the use of very low loads at first.
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### Author:  [@Brian46pd](https://forum.barbellmedicine.com/u/Brian46pd)
#### Post date: [January 20, 2019, 5:16pm UTC](https://forum.barbellmedicine.com/t/press-substitue-due-to-arthritis/4696/5 "2019-01-20T17:16:29Z")
I will try that route with minimal resistance, Thank you