# Press substitute

**URL:** <https://forum.barbellmedicine.com/t/press-substitute/11381>\
**Category:** Training Q&A \[Moderated\]\
**Created:** [September 17, 2021, 1:50pm UTC](https://forum.barbellmedicine.com/t/press-substitute/11381 "2021-09-17T13:50:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 3\
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**Author:** ![alonso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/aeb1de/32.png) [@alonso](https://forum.barbellmedicine.com/u/alonso)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2021, 1:50pm UTC](https://forum.barbellmedicine.com/t/press-substitute/11381/1 "2021-09-17T13:50:47Z")

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I have very bad left shoulder problems, making overhead pressing very painful. It seems less painful at lower reps and higher weights.

Is there any recommended substitute for these movements in the templates to get the shoulder work needed?

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**Author:** ![Austin\_Baraki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.barbellmedicine.com/austin_baraki/32/1095_2.png) [@Austin\_Baraki](https://forum.barbellmedicine.com/u/Austin_Baraki)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2021, 9:01pm UTC](https://forum.barbellmedicine.com/t/press-substitute/11381/2 "2021-09-17T21:01:52Z")

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Other things to consider/try:  
-Dumbbell presses  
-Dumbbell (or barbell) incline bench press (as high of an incline as you can tolerate)  
-Landmine press

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**Author:** ![alonso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/aeb1de/32.png) [@alonso](https://forum.barbellmedicine.com/u/alonso)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2021, 9:42pm UTC](https://forum.barbellmedicine.com/t/press-substitute/11381/3 "2021-09-17T21:42:56Z")

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Thank you!