Oropharyngeal Exercises and Sleep Apnea

Hi BBM Team,

Been a big fan for years and have just recently started training with Derek for an ACL rehab and I’m loving it. Really excited to be working with you guys and looking forward to the San Diego seminar!

That being said, I’ve been working with a few different ENT doctors trying to manage my sleep apnea and I was looking for your opinion on oropharyngeal exercises and their ability to manage sleep apnea. I’m 27 years old, no health complications, low body fat (12% when last tested) and have been dealing with sleep apnea since high school. It all started off with a buddy of mine telling me I was making some weird sounds at night, I ignored it for 4 years and just figured my sleep habits were to blame for my lack of energy. Eventually I went and saw an ENT who explained to me that my septum was pretty deviated and that was the cause of my troubles. We did the septoplasty in 2017 which was a failed surgery as the deviation still is present. In 2018 I underwent a sleep study and was diagnosed with mild OSA with 9 apnic events per hour. My doctor prescribed me a CPAP and for the last year I’ve had a lot of trouble trying to acclimate. If I felt I had great results from it I would have an easier time adhering, but I’ve primarily used nasal cushions as the respiratory therapist said full face masks don’t work well with beards.

I’ve since had a second opinion about my septum and will give it one more surgery this December to correct the deviation however this MD helped me realize that it’s not solely the nose that is responsible for OSA but my pallet and soft tissue of the throat. He recommended not using a nasal mask since my nose doesn’t have great airflow. I remember Jordan saying that he uses a CPAP and I was curious about what model mask he uses (my beard is similar to yours). The same ENT performed a CT scan of my airway and told me that my biggest choke point is my jaw due to it being quite small. He said that the UPPP surgery is an option along with breaking my jaw and moving it forward. I’m not interested in either of those surgeries, he said the long term outcomes aren’t great and admittedly most of the patients he performs his version of a UPPP on seem to develop symptoms again after about 20 years, leading him to suspect a neural component to OSA. And the jaw surgery… that’s a big no from me dawg.

I’ve read that MAD is a decent treatment for mild OSA however that has possible negative side effects as well. Since I’m having a bit of CPAP intolerance, mouthpieces can lead to jaw problems, and trying to avoid throat surgery at all costs, I feel slightly lost trying to find a good solution. I did come across a few studies talking about oropharyngeal exercises and their treatment ability for OSA. Have you guys ever used these exercises or have seen any patients who have successfully used them to treat their apnea? Also do you have any tips for CPAP intolerance?

It seems like most studies using this method find that a decrease in neck circumference is a prime driver in reducing OSA, in my case I started developing this when I was 150# and now I’m pushing 185. I don’t plan to stop training and my neck will probably continue to thicken due to the training. That being said, do you think these exercises would have a meaningful impact? It would be a dream to sleep well without any kind of device or surgery aiding me.

Thanks for your input and all the content you put out!

Jake

This is a bit beyond our expertise, so I will tag Dr. @Nate_Gordon for a consult :slight_smile:

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Hi Jake,

Current practicing sleep doc who will insert the following caveat to our discussion: like most things, it’s tough to tell over the internet what exactly is going on and what might be the best course of action. I think taking into consideration your local sleep provider’s input is wise, and educating yourself as you have will help you and your sleep doc come up with a plan (I’m always appreciative of the patient who invests the time to look at the clinical data and other options since I don’t always have time to). So BLUF, let’s talk about your situation, but make sure you consult your local doc regarding the plan. FYI this is long winded so prepare yourself, you’ve been warned.

You mention your concerns off the bat involve a conversation with an ENT about a deviated septum, which ultimately resulted in an unhelpful surgery. You briefly mentioned that you have fatigue, but I would want to know more about that and what prompted you to get checked out beyond your friend hearing you make weird sounds. Don’t get me wrong, witnessed apneas at night is an indication for getting a sleep study, but I would be willing to venture that most youngish, healthy (you mention your BF% but did not mention your BMI and neck circumference which would be helpful to me) males are likely to have other causes of fatigue or daytime sleepiness, like insufficient sleep. You also didn’t tell me how easy or difficult it is for you to fall asleep. Most patients who have problems due to OSA, and OSA alone can fall asleep on a whim, but have difficulty with maintaining sleep or waking feeling rested.

You got a sleep study and it said you had mild sleep apnea. Okay, I got it. A lot of people I see and treat have mild OSA. Something you may or may not have heard yet (that I think is really important from an expectation management perspective) is that mild OSA is just that, it’s mild. Yes, it could explain your symptoms, but I almost never rely purely on that as the cause of a patient’s excessive daytime sleepiness or fatigue. You’re healthy, so it’s unlikely for it to be something serious, but it’s worth talking it over with your sleep doc, or if s/he’s not interested in doing the work up, your primary care doctor (I’m a family medicine physician also) in evaluating for causes. Some common ones include: dysfunctional sleep due to inappropriate sleep hygiene, insufficient sleep, irregular sleep schedules, circadian misalignments, insomnia, depression, anxiety, endocrinopathies, substance abuse…the list goes on. If you haven’t gotten my drift, I wouldn’t hang my hat entirely on the OSA, just yet at least based on our very limited picture of your health in front of us.

That being said, let’s get back to what you were asking about. So is surgery a good idea? Or are oropharyngeal exercises (sometimes known as myofunctional therapy) a good idea? What about MADs? What about CPAP — what about a different mask, or setting, or machine? ALL really good questions, and why I’m interesting in typing so much here… Let’s break it down (keeping in mind this is mostly my thoughts based on current practice standards and guidelines and I won’t be sending you PUBMED links because I don’t really have the time to)

  1. Surgery – I appreciate that your ENT wasn’t selling his soul and saying that UPPP or the maxillomandibular advancement surgeries were their first line recommendations, because they ARE NOT first line. Yes, it’s not unreasonable to attempt to treat nasal obstruction as studies in general have supported fixing nasal obstruction for improvement of OSA (IF THAT’S THE ONLY FACTOR AT HAND). But another way to consider that is, for all my patient’s with nasal congestion, I ensure they have a solid regimen of a nasal saline and intranasal steroid daily to keep their nasopharynx as dry as possible to reduce obstruction. If you aren’t already doing that, it would be a reasonable idea to do so. It won’t fix a whopping deviated septum, but if you have airflow resistance it will certainly not hurt it. UPPP hasn’t been shown to be effective, and in fact has been harmful to patients with OSA. MMA is helpful, but ridiculously complex, and associated with high morbidity. Hence, not my or your surgeon’s first choice. No offense to any ENTs, I love you guys, especially for my pediatric OSA patients.

  2. Oropharyngeal exercises – Yeah this is interesting, thanks for teaching me something tonight. I looked it up, and read through a few studies including the one you posted. They are discussed briefly in the Sleep medicine Bible (Kryger if anyone’s interested) and there’s some really interesting stuff. Did you know that people who play the didgeridoo or orchestral players who play double reeded wind instruments have a lower risk of OSA? The gist here is, there is thought that doing specific speech related exercises can train your palate muscles to a point that it’s less likely to obstruct when you’re asleep (the basic problem of OSA). That being said, a few caveats I noticed off the bat: when adjusted for BMI, the difference or reduction was marginal (aka bigger necks equal bigger risks of OSA). The other thing was the exercises are highly specialized and at the current moment not something that every speech therapist or sleep physician would have a clue how to train you on. Most of the studies, both observational and randomized controlled had patient’s who had mild to moderate OSA (aka someone with a picture similar to you) which is one upside. I’m not saying that this isn’t a future option, but I would expect this to be something very difficult to find in practice (honestly, if you want to try finding someone, contact the authors of that study you cited and see if they can guide you in the right direction – and let me know what you find out).

  3. Mandibular advancement device (MAD) – great option for mild OSA patients, especially those with a positional component (aka someone who has far worse sleep apnea on their back). This is a reasonable option for you to consider despite me not knowing whether your OSA was worse in supine position. The potential pros: it doesn’t require wearing a mask, it’s more easily portable, and less “invasive” if sticking a hard piece of plastic molded to your teeth isn’t invasive to you. The cons: requires $$$ and some insurances won’t cover both CPAP and MADs. Requires time and coordinated efforts: a dentist trained in sleep medicine must take impressions, send them to a lab to be made, and then you must return to a sleep lab with said device after wearing it for 30-60 days to ensure it works. Not impossible, just takes time/effort. I have seen a fair number of these work out for people, but I’ve also seen people who state they chuck them under their bed on a nightly basis.

  4. What about CPAP? – so CPAP is the gold standard because we know it works when it comes to fixing one of the main problems in OSA, the obstructed airway part. It acts a pneumatic splint to prop that airway open when you fall asleep. IT DOES NOT solve other causes of disrupted sleep, like insomnia, circadian misalignments, nightmares, low arousal threshold (sometimes). It also requires the patient to be compliant. So if you’re using this thing, with very little leak (we’ll touch on your beard comment), at least 5-6 hours nightly, we’d expect some improvement of your symptoms if they were solely due to OSA. This is especially apparent in severe OSA patients, who sometimes we will slap a mask on in the middle of their study and they will wake up feeling like they got the best night of sleep ever. Anytime I give a mild OSA patient CPAP, I emphasize this is a trial and they need to make sure certain things are fulfilled before we can say it was a definite failure 1. They used it nightly >4 hours for several weeks (ideally 5-7 hours, and had been using it for 6-8 weeks) 2. They have very little leak 3. They’ve continued to maintain good sleep habits

Your beard? If you have severe nasal congestion despite treating it in the way I mentioned above, then yes, I’d agree a nasal mask would be a touch difficult. And with a sick beard like yours, a full face mask is going to be a bitch. But what’s more important, your sleep or your beard? If you had severe OSA, that question would read: “What’s more important, not sleeping well and feeling like shit, or your beard?”

So the answer, like most things, is complicated and requires in depth consultation beyond the time we have here online. But I think you are on the right path. Look into figuring out if there are other reasons to feel the way you do during the day, paying attention to common causes like insufficient or dysfunctional sleep. Consider looking into a MAD or picking a different mask/shaving your beard and sticking with CPAP before you look for an experimental therapy that doesn’t seem to be mainstreamed (if you find a speech therapist who does this, really let me know so I can refer my patients there). You’re mild OSA is likely to worsen slightly as you put on weight (it’s okay, there are worse things like being sarcopenic), and as you age (can’t change that one).

Good luck, and keep training.

Nate

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I realized toward the end of that I began rambling about beards and didn’t mention one piece of advice that I tell all new (and poorly compliant CPAP users): CPAP is a foreign, and at times, uncomfortable change to the way you sleep. I get that. So we have to be smarter and help you and your body/brain get used to this mask at night. How do we do that exactly?

Well if you wear glasses on a daily basis (or if you don’t, think about the seat belt you hopefully put on when you get into your car), you’ll notice that at least until I mentioned it just now, you didn’t realize that you were wearing them because, presumably you’ve been wearing them for a long time and have gotten used to them. It’s the same concept when we attempt to desensitize patients to CPAP masks. If you are having difficulty with getting comfortable with your mask, try the following exercise:

  1. Plan to do this every single night
  2. During the LAST 30-60 mins of your night before you go to bed, while you’re doing whatever it is you do as part of your routine to wind down before bed, find your CPAP and turn it on
  3. Wear your mask, with your machine on, for those 30-60 minutes of (insert relaxing wind down activity that you normally are used to doing nightly)
  4. Attempt to go bed once you feel like you’re sufficiently tired with your CPAP mask and machine on
  5. Repeat nightly, for at least 4-6 weeks

If you do this, hopefully over time you will desensitize yourself to wearing your mask and the sleeping part will take care of itself. Remember that when you’re first starting out, I as your sleep doc would want to see what happens when you wear the mask and make adjustments accordingly. The length of time that you wear it will come later after you’ve gotten used to it,.

Oh and one last thing, CPAP masks are like shoes. If you don’t like one, try another one because there are hundreds of them. Again, good luck and don’t drive while sleepy.

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Thanks for the help, Nate!

Hey Nate,

Thanks so much for your thoughtful reply. I met with a new sleep doctor today and will be posting some information to follow up on our original conversation and also for the forum to have some general info on good sleep practices so others may incorporate some of the tips into their sleep. You sent a lot of great information that helped me look at my sleep patterns in a broader spectrum. To hit on a few points that I didn’t put into my OP, my neck circumference is 14.5" and BMI is 25.8 (currently 175# 5’9"). The doctor today said that my neck circumference is not worrisome and although my BMI is high it is not because of excess adipose tissue and he’d rather me be exercising than not. The doctor also asked me why I ever wanted a sleep study in the first place and I told him that I had excessive daytime fatigue, concentration problems, and witnessed apnic events. Since your post I have been thinking about my sleep habits over the years and I have definitely not been making a consistent practice of putting sleep as a priority. Could my fatigue be caused by the apnea? Maybe. Could it be caused by inconsistent sleep schedules? Maybe. Could it be caused by a combination of factors? Most definitely. Both you and the new doctor have helped me understand that the CPAP may not be the magic cure, but taking care of the overall sleep pattern is a step that needs to be taken first and foremost.

The doc gave me a handout of some healthy sleep practices that I want to share with everyone. Some of which may be “duh” knowledge, but there are some points that I didn’t think about that I will try to implement into my sleep habits. One caveat was he didn’t include references on this handout so I can’t point to specific studies that back up his points, but they all sound like healthy practices regardless.

  1. Set your intention to be “done for the day” and remain “done” throughout the night. Cramming work, studying, or trying to figure out life problems late at night doesn’t allow your brain to relax and flow with it’s natural state of alertness - sleepiness. Allow yourself the opportunity to “sleep on it” if you are working on a project or trying to make a breakthrough that you just can’t seem to crack late at night. In the morning you will be more rested and your brain will operate better.

  2. Don’t try to sleep, but schedule a consistent “sleep window” and be consistent with it. Sleep may come to you at different times throughout your life. Some days you might be sleepy at 8pm, others at 11pm, the next night at 2am. You can’t schedule sleep like an appointment to show up every night at 10pm, but you CAN schedule a window of opportunity that is allowed for sleep. The seven hour window between 11pm-6am is a time when no daytime worries or productive activities are allowed. This doesn’t mean that you need to sit in the dark and “try” to sleep once 11pm hits, but allowing yourself to be receptive of the wave of sleepiness when it does hit you and sleeping once you start feeling it is most essential.

  3. From 30-60 minutes before your “sleep window” participate in a wind down activity that allows you to relax and be receptive to that wave of sleepiness when it does hit. Try to limit the amount of light that you take in during this time, low intensity lights for reading or a dimmed television screen if you choose to watch tv. He recommends not using any device during the wind down time, but is also aware that people will use them regardless. If you choose to watch something to wind down, try to limit it to a half hour and still try to dim the light on the television. Lights disrupt melatonin production which is essential for falling asleep.

  4. Speaking of light, use it to your advantage. When winding down, dim your lights to mimic the night outside but also when waking up try and get outside and take in a few minutes of sunshine to help wake you up. Light is a powerful tool when it comes to proper sleep.

  5. Waking up in the middle of the night is okay. Busy brains make it harder to fall back asleep after waking. Practicing some sort of mindfulness activity when falling asleep can be beneficial to try and keep your mind from racing on other thoughts. If you are lying in bed and feel yourself getting agitated or frustrated because you are wide awake when you are “supposed to be” sleeping, simply get up and go do a relaxing activity. It is not worth the frustration and anxiety that you are putting yourself through because you are upset that you are not sleeping the right way or when you need to. Remove yourself from the negative head space, do something relaxing that you enjoy, you will get sleepy eventually.

  6. No visible clock and do not try and figure out the time. Avoiding all time calculations such as “I’m going to get this many hours of sleep” or “In 8 hours I need to do this and that…” Such things inevitably involve worrying about how little time remains, how badly you fail as a sleeper, and worries about how you will feel the next day. Stop searching for the perfect sleep tracker app or device because these devices don’t really lead to solutions, they more so magnify the frustration you have with your sleep. Spend less emotional and monetary energy worrying about your sleep.

  7. You will get through the day if you have bad sleep. You’ve had plenty of nights where you haven’t slept well. You’re still alive reading this post so it didn’t kill you to have a bad night or two. We’ve all been there. It’s squat day, you did not sleep well, you don’t want to train, everything feels like shit. You still got through your work day, dealt with your life, hit your squat, and managed to make your way to bed that night. You will be fine.

  8. Encourage yourself to be emotionally clear and positive throughout the day. General mental health applies to good sleep. Minimizing your stress levels and engaging in positive activities and thought processes will lead to a better head space when getting ready for bed that night. Avoid stress before bed as much as possible.

  9. Compartmentalize your worrying and planning. Your waking day has appointments scheduled all throughout. Use that time to figure your life out and try to avoid bringing them to bed as much as possible.

  10. Become conscious of worrying about sleep during the day or when night approaches. Make a mental note about these worried thoughts. Catch and release them. There is a time to be worrying about this during your scheduled worried time. Look forward to your upcoming sleep window and remember that no daytime worries or productive activities are allowed during your sleep window. It is for relaxing and sleep.

  11. Your bedroom is for two things: sleep and intimacy. Clear your clutter, remove anything that might remind your of daytime worries, don’t bring electronics into the room. Condition your brain to recognize that when you are in that room, you are in there to sleep.

  12. Avoid caffeine after 3pm and avoid alcohol as a means to help you fall asleep. Alcohol can disrupt the quality of your sleep. If you like a drink or two at night to wind down, do so in the early evening to allow your BAC to fall when still awake, not in the middle of the night.

  13. Persistence and consistency is key. Implementing one or two of these practices into your daily life is great, but implementing everything is hard. It takes time and dedication and it will not fix itself overnight. Just like training and nutrition, it will take some time to really learn how to make it work for you but the cool thing about sleep is you always have a second chance to make it better. Didn’t sleep well last night? That’s okay because tonight you have another chance.

That’s the list that the doctor gave me today. Any comments I’d love to hear them. I haven’t looked into a myofunctional therapist yet, however it’s on my list. If I find a good one and they have a network of providers that they recommend I will certainly add them to this list. One last question before I sign off, when you talk about a good saline and steroid routine for nasal health, do you mean simply a nasal spray or do you recommend nasal rinsing? Also how many times a day/week would you recommend.

Thanks for everything!

Jake