Pain Education Opportunity for Lay Folks

Good morning everyone,

Just for some background, I am a non-traditional pre-med student based out of Oakland, CA, preparing to apply to medical school later this year. Like many on this forum, I have been following Barbell Medicine for quite some time now, and along the way have been introduced to the work of Drs. Ray and Miles, and many others. I am deeply indebted to everyone at BBM for the vast amount of knowledge and critical thinking skills they provide to the public.

Recently, I was brought on board by a strength and conditioning coach to develop content, primarily centered on nutrition and habit-building skills, to be delivered in an online, challenge-based format. Each day, participants in the challenge will receive daily lessons on topics related to principles of leading a healthy, active lifestyle.

However, I also see this as an opportunity to give early educational exposure to folks on pain science, load management, and dealing with injuries. While I am certainly not a licensed clinician, I do think I can leverage the platform I’ve been given to spread some of the general principles outlined in BBM’s content, and elsewhere.

My questions to you all are:

  1. Do you have any input on what a palatable pain science module might look like in this format?
  2. Other than managing people’s complaints of pain myself of course, are there limitations to the information or advice I should be giving? My main concern here is my lack of credentials. I want to ‘stay in my lane’, so to speak.

Thank you!

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A good place to start in this situation could be one of the existing pain neuroscience education (PNE) resources, and then breaking it down into digestible chunks for your audience. Examples would be Explain Pain (Butler/Moseley) or check out Adriaan Louw’s books.

Hello Dr. Baraki,

Thank you so much for your reply and for those recommendations. I look forward to implementing them.

Do you think Explain Pain Supercharged has much utility for me as a non-clinician?

As an aside, I recall you mentioning that you were testing out the Curable app. Have you found any success with that?

If you don’t have any background in neuroscience, immunology, and physiology EPS may be a bit too advanced.

I’ve had many patients use the Curable app and report good things about it.

Noted! I will begin with Explain Pain and perhaps move onto EPS as I progres in my education. Thank you for your response.

I appreciate the feedback on Curable as well. I’ll refer folks to the app as well, then.

For me the recommendations made by Derek Miles, Jarod Hall and others we’re things like(in order of me reading/listening to them)
The mind body prescription by John Sarnos.
Paindemic
Painful yarns by Lorimer Mosley
Greg Lehman’s Ebook, don’t know the name unfortunately
Sticks and stones by Jarod Hall
Explain Pain Supercharged by David Butler and Lorimer Mosley
Pretty much any research article as it pertains to pain whether it’s medicine, psychological factors, rehab, modalities, treatment etc.

People who I follow other than BBM people including Derek Miles and Micheal Ray would be Micheal A, Jarod Hall, Clinical Athlete, Quinn Henoch, Adam Meakins, Chris Beardsley, Brad Schonfield, Greg k and may be others that I’m forgetting.