Clarifi

Hey Jordan,

My understanding is that 20g of high-quality protein is enough to initiate a fresh MPS cycle, after which any additional protein consumption within min 3 hrs no longer contributes anything in this respect. At the same time, your recommendation is that I eat min 160 g of protein as a 160 lb lifter. Assuming I eat 5 meals (appropriately spaced out), each containing 20 g of animal-derived protein, I’ve only eaten 100 g of protein yet MPS (to my understanding) has not suffered as a result. Why do I need 60 additional grams of protein then? Am I missing something?

Thanks!

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Yes, you’re missing a number of things. Any ideas what they could be?

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I hate to admit this, but I have been wondering the same thing…

Think about the question for a few moments and see what you can come up with.

Here’s some help, what foods have protein in them?

Interested where you heard “…after which any additional protein consumption within min 3 hrs no longer contributes anything in this respect”.

20g good protein might be enough to start MPS but 20x5 not enough per day to help you achieve your goals. You will be running protein (and prob overall calorie) deficit. Dr J has plenty of good info in prior posts and on YT about approp macros and splits to help you figure out how to get your diet tuned.

If you’re talking about trace protein from things like yams, rice, ect I get that part. Where I’m stumped is this: Let’s say I eat 40g of protein per meal and 20g of that is for MPS, my understanding is that the other 20g of protein in that meal does not go toward MPS,

Are you sure? Where does it go then?

It seems like any amount of protein over 20g is going to be used as energy or stored as fat,

This is not the final fate of most dietary protein.

I’m not sure of anything where this topic is concerned, but sounds like I’m way off base, so I’ll re-read Beast and 7 Rules of Protein, and try to figure out where I got confused

It’s not going to be in there, as the complex dynamics of metabolism that- while interesting- don’t change the recommendations for what folks should do would have just been extra material.

Most protein that isn’t immediately used for MPS hangs around in the blood stream to be used for future MPS or is either oxidized or converted for energy. Very little of it is stored as fat, but rather when allows other things to be stored as fat.

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Ah ok, got it, Thank you for clearing that up for me. Is there anything that can be done to assure that it gets used for MPS as opposed to oxidation or energy?

Eat protein every 3-5 hours.

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