Mito or myotonia. Yet I'm exercising.

Hi guys,

I came here via this old thread: Mitochondrial Myopathy and resistance training

I also have a congenital muscle disease. Differentials are either a very untypical non-dystrophic myotonia or mito. Previous lab and exercise tests mostly seem to point towards a milder form of mito though.

I’m 51, afab, and still don’t have an absolute diagnosis thanks to moving internationally too often, and lots of burying head in the sand periods. I am able to exercise though, and I do on and off for 25 years, including about 10 years of trying to run. Main symptoms are muscle stiffness and burning pain when repeating movements, generally just a feeling that gravity is a lot higher for me than for others. I have very hypertrophic lower legs, and gain muscle quickly overall.

My body is a bit weird. Exercise tests show my heartrate when running must be waaaay above the point only glycogen is used, and likely around or above the anaerobic threshold. And so I duly hit the wall after 43 minutes. Unless it’s one of those rare moments where my muscles feel miserable as always, yet I keep on going without bonking and the only thing that makes me stop is pain in my feet from putting them flat down and not rolling them off because too tight muscles. I really wish there was a way to figure out what substrate my body uses then. I tentatively think lactate as I have some very odd lactate anomalies, both high and low depending on how I exercise.

My lactate clearance seems to be pretty good anyway, and my body seems to recover quickly. My strength routine currently is 5x5 each bench, squat, row, deadlift or romanian, overhead press and biceps curl (lost a biceps tendon in an accident). I am not able to lift heavier or progress faster when only doing 3 exercises, thus I might as well pack everything into one. I can’t get full on heavy anyway due to a somewhat improvised bedroom setup and being so prone to accidents that I don’t get through a week without a minor catastrophe, while living alone. Actually, this is my secret super power, because if I do bodyweight, I also don’t manage more than 5-6 reps. My muscle problem is clearly not one of strength or stamina, but of repeated contractions, followed by super fast recovery. What annoys me, is that I’m apparently training for hypertrophy, not so much for strength. Maybe I need to reduce the volume further. On the other hand I enjoy doing this, and training exactly this way also benefits my energy levels in everyday life, and it makes running a bit easier.

Anyway, waiting for an appointment in genetics in a local university hospital. And then back to neuromuscular specialist to discuss how to go on.

Hi there!

Thank you for the post. Sounds like you’ve been self-managing this issue for some time, and are now getting the workup you need. That’s great!

That aside, if I may ask, what is your question?

Uh, that’s a good question Jordan. I’m not sure whether I have a question. Felt the urge to share. I have so many questions, but even doctors can’t answer them as they generally don’t see people with neuromuscular conditions that exercise. I have no idea whether exercising damages my already atrophic type 2 fibers more, considering all exercising other than walking to the supermarket around the corner will use glycogen, and doing ‘low intensity’ is just not possible for me other than slow walks. Is there a way to prevent hypertrophy and build better strength? There’s just no literature that would answer these questions I guess.

Yea, I think the answers to questions surrounding your specific condition will depend on the actual diagnosis and pathophysiology.

All exercise, or physical activity, uses glycogen to some extent…even slow walking. Bioenergetics is complicated, as you’re well aware of!

As far as training for strength, but not size, that’d look like a lot of low volume sets of 1-3 reps, exercises without an eccentric (e.g. plyos, olympic lifts), and similar, though it would be challenging to prevent all hypertrophy. I don’t think it would be desirable to eliminate the hypertrophy response entirely either, you know?

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Yeah, I think I should just accept the hypertrophy. Doctors are puzzled, but it is what it is. I guess I should be grateful that I am able to be active. The most likely thing seems to be a mtDNA mutation where only some mitochondria are affected, and mitochondria kind of multiply with a training impulse I think: When I don’t do strength training for a while and start again it takes about 2-3 weeks to get a massive amount of energy for everyday tasks, and I am able to run better. When I stop again for whatever reason it takes about 2-3 weeks to drop back to base level. Another funny observation: All my 10km runs are faster than my 7km runs that are faster than 5km, that are faster than 3km. I can’t sprint even 50m. It has all to do with my muscles having a total energy block when I start too quickly. Usually I am able to go just a bit faster at around 3-3.5km, and then still faster, etc. I’m still the slowest runner around, but I do run :slight_smile:

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