OHP sets of 8

Hi team,

Currently running Hypertrophy II Week 5 and liking the working sets of 8 - I haven’t done much in that rep range for most lifts. Previously I ran PB1 (the new one then the old one). For my next program I’m thinking of either re-running HypertrophyII or LFS 4 day.

The thing is each program would be more OHPx8 for 2+ more months, so I’m concerned that’s too much time doing OHP for sets of eight and I’ll likely stall out, especially if I were to run HypII again and then LFS.

My thoughts to mitigate this would be to 1) switch to sets of 6 when I stall out on 8s OR swap LFS for something else like GSCII or TitanII as I’m also open to more conditioning and explosive work.

What do you recommend?

Thanks for everything

This is an interesting question (to me). To me, there are two issues to consider: 1) Does reducing the rep range while maintaining other variables serve as a viable periodization model, and 2) How variable should the rep range be over time, assuming the goal(s) remain the same?

Is reducing the rep range a good periodization model?

I think that this style of linear periodization is fine and certainly can work, though I think people can often mis-interpret their results and subsequently not learn anything from their efforts. For example, consider a person does sets of 5 for 4 weeks, feels a stall coming on, then switches to sets of 3 for 4 weeks, feels another stall coming on, then switches to sets of 1 until maxing out. The only way they can know if they’re stronger is by comparing previous sets of 5,3, or 1 (see what I did there) against previous efforts (and their exertion levels). If someone is up > 5% or so in performance on an otherwise identical task, that’s a performance improvement.

Whether or not this model works well for an individual is another question. My experience is that it can work for some, but not others. That’s how most of these things go.

How variable should the rep range be if the goals stay the same?

In general, the rep range used in training influences the type of adaptations that are generated. Some of this has to do with how much weight can be used, as well as the proximity to failure range based on the rep scheme and loading. In any case, I think the rep ranges should stay pretty similar over time for strength, whereas more variability is available (but not necessarily better or worse) for hypertrophy. I also prefer a concurrent model most of the time, where multiple rep ranges are trained for the major movement patterns.

For strength, I do think that the majority of the training year should stay within a somewhat specific rep range. Maximal strength is probably best trained in the 1-6 rep range, whereas strength stamina is probably best trained in the 6-12 rep range, and strength endurance in 12+ rep range. There’s obvious overlap between all rep ranges, of course. Each rep range generates its own signature with respect to adaptations, which should suit the specific goal of the individual. Linear periodization within these ranges is reasonable, but changes across rep ranges for the priority work is probably not a great idea for most.

What should you do?

Either program would be fine. I’d favor running the low fatigue template for a change of pace IF maximal hypertrophy isn’t your goal. If it is, I’d favor going to one of the bodybuilding programs, specifically bodybuilding II. This has different rep ranges for OHP as well.

I do see what you did there! I would also be concerned about the total number of sets in a schema like that - it likely wouldn’t be enough for growth :wink:

For strength, I do think that the majority of the training year should stay within a somewhat specific rep range.

Wow! So, spending eight (for example) months in the 8 rep range if it aligns with my goals shouldn’t be an issue, provided I can vary the overall stimulus enough (e.g. RPE, other types of pressing exercises and rep ranges).

Thanks for the recommendation - as it turns out, I’m definitely OK with a bit more arm/shoulder growth haha. That does, however, bring me to another question. If my legs are where I want them after this run of HypII (finding acceptable work clothes is a bit of a challenge with my butt/thighs), do you have any recommendations for how to modify a more hypertrophy focused program so that my legs will still fit into slacks? Perhaps either 1) lowering total lower body volume and the rep ranges for some of the exercises or 2) swapping out the lower body with something like Powerlifting or GS&C programming

Perhaps another example will provide some clarity. Imagine if you were a powerlifter concerned with nothing but your 1-Rep Max in the squat, bench press, and deadlift. The majority of your year’s training for the priority lifts is going to be sets of 1 to 5 reps or so. Is here some adjustment within that rep range from block to block? Likely, though it’s unclear what real advantage that has. One could do the same thing for sets of 6-8, acknowledging this selects for slightly different adaptations than other rep ranges.

Both of your modifications could work, though I’d favor keeping the rep ranges the same and just doing half of the programmed volume for lower body stuff.

Thanks for the add’l example, I definitely get it now! Much appreciated :slight_smile: