I think maybe this is starting to sink in. I do not expect you guys to give me specific programming advice until sometime in the future when I hire you. However I would appreciate at least a “your getting warm Morgan.” Even if you don’t post this one I hope I am getting it.
Here is my current situation; I have run the SSNLP like 4 different times over the last 18 months. I am not making progress on a session by session basis in any of my lifts and totally stalled on the squat.
I now have a coach and am fixing a bunch of form issues with my Pull, a few issues with my press and my squat is pretty decent (which is amazing since I hate squatting.)
So I am deloading in my pull due to form. So of course in my head a deload must mean re-do the LP from scratch.
So I have asked a bunch of programming questions about how to mix LP and bridge due to form reset issues because my brain is stuck thinking LOWERING WEIGHT = REDO LP…hmm I wonder where I got that idea?
What to do…
Hey, perhaps this is a perfect opportunity for me to just run the bridge (or other appropriate program) since you lower weights anyway and this will give me the opportunity to provide stress that will cause some adaptation while I work on my form issues, crazy idea I know. What do you think?
Hi Morgan,
First is your coach programming for you? Has this coach given you a case for the LP and provided any insight on your progress or the plan? It might be the right fit, I can’t tell based on some of the details here. The thing is, if you have some form issues that are holding you back, you need to fix those no matter what program. I guess I’m not really sure what the questions is here, but if you are NOT in fact progressing on the LP and you’ve corrected your form, you need new programming, at least for the stalled lifts. If you are working with a coach and they see that you need to reset to fix something, that might be the case and the Bridge won’t help you there.
Thanks Leah. Mainly I was just trying to verify whether lowering weight in one lift to fix form suddenly makes you a candidate to do LP all over again. I thought so before, but I don’t know see the wisdom in just doing the same thing over and over and getting stuck in the same place. It makes more sense seemingly to move on? Once form is fixed the lagging lift is going to go back up and stall out as well pretty quickly I’m thinking. Does that make more sense? I’m very new to these ideas so I’m trying to make progress intelligently instead of just treading water while my form gets fixed.
Ok, so I’m still not totally sure what this coaching relationship is, and I think it’s pretty important for one coach to not just step on the toes of another coach when there is very, very limited understanding of what going on, right? First thing I’d do based on this is have a clear discussion with the coach, are they suggesting HLM or LP? I am unclear based on this, so you might be too. If you are working with someone IN PERSON, and they know their stuff, that is a very good thing, and so you should avail yourself of all that situation has to offer. So if you have a good coach, they are helping you fix your form, and they want to move you to HLM, that seems reasonable to me. That is no longer LP.
If this coach is ONLY fixing your form but you are actually on your own with programming, then that’s a different situation. If you lowered your weight on the DL, you can LP that back up. If you didn’t need to lower the weight on other lifts to correct your form, you do NOT go back to an LP for those, you move on, in this case, it sounds like to an intermediate program for you. And for clarity, the reset for anyone is aimed at fixing something so you are then able to move PAST the stall or problem point. If this doesn’t happen, if you keep hitting the wall again, then yes, the reset wasn’t the answer. That’s why we recommend only a couple of resets, then move on from the LP.
However, if this LP is different for you because you are lifting with the help of a coach, you should be expecting to move past the stall. Don’t nay-say yourself now and assume you will get stuck again.
My coach is great and my coaching us in person. I plan to take full advantage.
I understand about “stepping on toes” I just wanted to make sure I understood and you explained really well.
I think because of my past experience I’m definitely naysaying myself and assuming I will get stuck at the same weight again. I train by myself 99% of the time and I think way too much so my own mind is my biggest obstacle.
