Powerlifting 2 old templates

Hey Jordan,

been out of the game for awhile dealing with an injury for over a year, but thanks to Dr. Miles and others im back to a point where I have confidence in doing a routine again soon, although will be a while before I get back to heavy intensity.

I ran powerlifting 2 back in the day. I loved it. Reasons why I liked it

  • every day starts with either a squat or a dead, and there’s another squat or dead variation on two of the days
  • Like the 4 week change intervals from overload to pause to pin
  • Benched or pressed each day
  • The single, heavy 5 back off, and 3-4 back offsets was tiring but satisfying
  • I thought the results over 1.5 years were impressive both in numbers and muscle gains

The new template is, idk it’s a huge change from that. I read the instructions but maybe I still don’t fully appreciate the programming changes. Looking for some additional insight to help win me over

thanks

Mike

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Hey Mike,

Happy to hear you’re feeling better. As far as “winning you over”, it would be helpful to know what questions you have related to the programming. Otherwise -and as you know- I’m not really trying to convince people to buy something. While I liked the 1st Generation Powerlifting 2 program, I think the 2nd Generation is better in every way. To me, this is to be expected with additional feedback and testing.

Relating to some of your concerns:

  • Yes, the new 2nd Gen template uses an upper lower split vs a full body split, as I found I can increase training load this way. More training load generally corresponds to greater results.
  • The new 2nd Gen templates extend the block to up to 8 weeks, though individuals can change more (or less) frequently if they like. It’s hard to want to change a program that’s working every 4 weeks, and most people were seeing continued progress at that point.
  • There are still singles and back offs in the 2nd Gen template.
  • The 2nd Gen download comes with both 3 and 4-day options, as well as strengthlifting (press-focused) and powerlifting (bench-focused) options, which is more than the 1st Gen program.

I think the programs are relatively similar, but the 2nd gen is more refined and I predict likely to work better for more people. If you have specific questions from the included PDF, let me know!

-Jordan

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appreciate the insight - is it just that having the volume and intensity of back offsets just too much in the old program ? If I were to run that should it be a lower intensity?

The upper lower makes sense, and it’s probably better given your expertise and personal success, but for me personally there is something about each day starting with squat or deadlift did wonders for my consistency and enjoyment. I’m less excited for pressing movements, especially if the entire day is dedicated to upper body (versus a mix). Having that squat or deadlift everyday to look forward for the main movement feels great

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There weree significant changes made to the programming that I don’t think can be replicated by reducing the intensity of the old version. If you like the old version, that’s cool…I do too. I just think the new one is an evolution of it and likely to work better.

Regarding frequency and scheduling, personal preference is the name of the game. If you like starting each program out with a lower body exercise, that’s great. I think that trumps any training load considerations for adherence, though your workouts may take longer to achieve the same training load.

If you’re up for it, you can try this generation of the program for free. If not, that’s cool too.

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Thanks again Jordan, I already purchased it so I’m set. I think I’ll give it a go. The more I noodle up on upper lower, the more I’m coming around to it.

Mike

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