Nagging Sciatica and Lower Back Pain

Hey guys,

I starting noticing a weird feeling in the back of my upper left leg in mid-July after failing a squat attempt with the safety bars too low (I believe I may have had to bend too far forward when I was failing). This has been coupled with occasional lower back pain.

I’ve been seeing a chiro who diagnosed it as sciatica. The pain is not terrible at all and doesn’t really affect my daily life (just seems to show up randomly throughout the day), but it’s been exacerbated whenever I try to squat with enough weight (essentially anything 225 or higher, which is not a lot of weight for me at all).

It seems to randomly be worse on some days and better on others. When I try to deadlift (even 135), the sciatica seems to flare up just slightly (not enough to be really painful, but enough for me to feel like there’s something going on).

Apart from when it was at its worst in July/August, it doesn’t seem to be getting any better. Would you recommend trying to deadlift, or should I continue to stay away from it?

What you’re describing is a fairly typical history for this condition. The natural history is for it to improve over time. We’ve trained numerous individuals with these types of symptoms, but sometimes their training does need a bit of modification.

I would first get your form checked on the main lifts.

You also seem to be focused on squatting over 225, based on your historical performance. Adjust your frame of reference FOR NOW, and use weights that you can squat without pain, and work your way up more gradually than you’d like.

If your form is verified to be good, and you still have discomfort with certain movements, see if there are any minor variants on the main lifts that you can use without pain. Things like a high bar squat or rack pull might be better tolerated for a little while, as things improve.

In Episode 20: Pain, Soft Tissue Work, and Nocebo, in the beginningof the video you briefly mentioned “red flag symptoms” related to a back pain scenario but didn’t really elaborate on those symptoms. What would someone like jmhudak17 want to monitor for regarding red flags.

I am in a similar situation to jmhudak17; however, my injury occurred about 10 years ago and I am slated to get an MRI that will likely show what I already suspect: herniated disk. I have managed pain off and on since the initial injury, but until recently it was never manifested as sciatica. Now I have moved into near constant sciatica for the past month. I have been managing with NSAIDs, but have a hard time sitting for more than 30 minutes and must sleep on my back or I will wake with significantly more than usual pain. I have also noticed that doing a relaxed hang from a pullup bar where my core is loose, causes extreme sciatica pain.

In Episode 20: Pain, Soft Tissue Work, and Nocebo, in the beginningof the video you briefly mentioned “red flag symptoms” related to a back pain scenario but didn’t really elaborate on those symptoms. What would someone like jmhudak17 want to monitor for regarding red flags.

I am in a similar situation to jmhudak17; however, my injury occurred about 10 years ago and I am slated to get an MRI that will likely show what I already suspect: herniated disk. I have managed pain off and on since the initial injury, but until recently it was never manifested as sciatica. Now I have moved into near constant sciatica for the past month. I have been managing with NSAIDs, but have a hard time sitting for more than 30 minutes and must sleep on my back or I will wake with significantly more than usual pain. I have also noticed that doing a relaxed hang from a pullup bar where my core is loose, causes extreme sciatica pain.

Lots and lots of stuff on this here: back pain red flags - Google Search

Do you train?

OP: I’ve been there - I did triathlon training for a few years and then discovered I had degen disc dz at 23 (as do both of my younger siblings, one of whom is post-back surg). Had 2 degenerated, herniated discs and for about 3 months didn’t take a step without severe pain. I started training with Jordan about a month after my diagnosis and took my first pain free steps in the gym. Pulled 315 while still having almost daily pain. I’m now 5 years later and have very infrequent pain (but it’s still there intermittently, some days worse than others without noticeable rhyme or reason).

Keep training with proper form with these guys and you should continue to improve. Also, have you seen an MD/DO for this or are you just going through a chiropractor for your care?

Trained as much as a could over the last ten years or so; 4-6 days a week weight training, amateur cycling, sprinkle with a 5k here, marathon there(in descending preference and prevalence). Weight training has always been something similar to starting strength or PPL(keeping squats, dl and press ever present). Also, I recently started squatting with a belt which has significantly improved my confidence and stability through my movement; however, I don’t use it for DL. For a little more background, my BMI is about 24 at 6’2". Sometimes my diet runs my life, other times I am more reasonable. Additionally, I’ve been quite strict on maintaining proper form, always trying to avoid the next injury. My totals are slightly biased towards the press since I am really just hesitant in overloading my back.

My injury cycle goes something like, 9-16 months of solid training with linear into tapering gains, followed by back pain. Over time I have learned to manage the pain better and my period of near-disabling pain has generally been shortened. In the past, injury has left me unable to walk normally leaving me with a significant bias in my spine and only short trips from bed to restroom. After 1-2 days of that, I can manage longer walks but still with bias in posture. Bias in walking normally subsides by 1 month and normal daily routines(vacuuming, yard work, etc) are resumed. Weight training then resumes as soon as I feel comfortable. This sciatica symptom is new to me though, and this kind of thing is a real drag at this point.

I am going to a brain and spine specialist this Tuesday. Not exactly sure what to expect. The two things I don’t want from the specialist: 1. Telling me to stop weight training 2. Sending me home with some generic physical therapy worksheet. Outside of the history above, I am fortunate enough to be very healthy. The downside to that is I am also inexperienced with dealing with the medical system, finding a dr who isn’t “on rails” and I am quite apprehensive (more pessimistic perhaps) about the whole thing.

Hopefully there is some useful info in the above ranting.

Update for my visit mentioned above: Based on reflex testing, I may have some nerve compression(I think this was the word used). MRI is ordered and I was given a prescription for a longer acting NSAID for pain management. Dr suggested I resume activities (including lifting) so long as it does not exacerbate pain/sciatica symptoms. MRI should happen within another week and analysis should follow shortly. He answered most of my questions with information akin to what Barbell Medicine materials I have seen on this topic. I’ll post another update once the MRI is done.

I did have a question I had forgot to ask, what is the general consensus on adding chiropractic care to the recovery period? Is this considered a worthwhile expense in terms of time/money? Additionally, does anyone have tips on weeding out the “spa treatment” chiropractors from the “nuts-and-bolts” care. I get a slimy feeling when I see these chiropractor facilities that remind me of a resort spa(like… want a wheatgrass shot while you fill out your paperwork? no, I dont)

Hey there! I totally understand what you’re going through with sciatica and lower back pain. It can be such a nagging and frustrating experience, especially when it starts to affect your daily activities like squatting and deadlifting. I hope you’re finding some relief with your chiropractor.