Protein recommendations question

Hi Drs,

Just a quick question on protein intake. On your podcast I heard you emphasize more than once that your protein intake recommendations refer to total body weight and not lean bodyweight or ideal weight.
Is this true only for people with more or less normal body comp or also for obese people? I just don’t understand why excessive fat mass would drive up protein needs. Thanks!

Susanna

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Our recommendations are based on research regarding muscle mass and function. This research uses total weight for dosing. Little to no research uses lean body mass for protein dosing, as this would require additional testing (e.g. DXA) while also being less useful for people to apply practically.

I wouldn’t frame it as the additional fat mass increasing protein needs per se’, but rather the increased mass in general. Most individuals with overweight or obesity carry more mass than their lean individuals too.

Tl;dr- Would still use weight based dosing up to ~ 250g protein/day, which is more than enough for pretty much everyone.

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Hi Jordan, thanks for clarification!
I’ll stick to the total weight then and 1.2 g/kg (1.6 would be over the top for me).

Now that I started counting macros I’m surprised how easy it is to get this protein amount without a ton of whey, despite rarely eating meat unless traveling.
Tofu, legumes, eggs and (low fat) dairy are my friends :grinning:
Even small amounts in grains and veggies (kale!) add up to something. I really underestimated this.

Yea, I tend to agree with you re: protein being relatively easy to get in. While that may be some individual’s experience, the average protein intake in the US amongst adults is ~ 1.1g/kg/d. We eat a LOT of protein :joy:

You guys BBQ a lot :wink:
I think with meat it is really easy. As vegetarian you have to be intentional about it and as vegan much more so.
That’s why I eat much more meat/fish when on the road. When having to eat in a random restaurant in the middle of nowhere (for work) that’s the most attainable protein source. The secret weapon though is the stinky skim milk cheese you find in every grocery store here, 30% protein.
Anyhow, for the most part I degraded protein shake to a dessert surrogate.