Muscle Gain vs Fat Gain while bulking

Hello! Had a question regarding your To Be a Beast article:

Our hypothetical novice, Johnny, is now 180lbs and squatting 255 x 5 x 3. He’s hovering around 20% bodyfat and he’s getting awfully squirrelly about having lost his abs.

Beyond the fact that I never had abs this is me, pretty much. 5’9", 177lbs, ~19% bodyfat. 1RMs are 305lb squat, 370lb DL, 195lb bench, 135lb press. Waist about ~33.5in. When I talk about potentially going on a cut people look at my like I’m crazy, as they probably should.

I’d like to gain about 10 more pounds while maintaining a good body composition. During a recent dirty bulk I didn’t think through very well I gained about 15 pounds (starting at ~15% bodyfat) at rate of about 30% muscle to 70% fat. I didn’t keep good records but I think I was gaining on average around 4-5 pounds a month. Can I expect the ratio of muscle to fat gain to improve if I focus on bulking cleanly and slowly as laid out in the article? If I were to gain 10 lbs at a 50/50 split of muscle and fat, that would put me at around 20.6%, a little fluffy but nothing terrible. I don’t care if it takes a year, I’d rather get as much muscle growth in as possible before I even think about going on a cut.

Thank you!

Randy,

I’m not sure if it matters whether the bulk is clean or dirty with respect to food quality, though I suppose if you objectively measured food quality via one of the tools that’s currently available you could argue about that, but I digress…

Ultimately, I think the three main determinants of your success (or failure) are as follows:

  1. Genetics. “Can’t touch this.”- MC Hammer
  2. Rate of weight gain. I wouldn’t advise 4-5lbs per month unless you’re genetically gifted or on drugs. 1-2lbs per month would be more advisable.
  3. Training. Not sure what kind of training you’re doing, but you might just need some more stimulus to drive the adaptations you want.

-Jordan

I’m not sure if it matters whether the bulk is clean or dirty with respect to food quality, though I suppose if you objectively measured food quality via one of the tools that’s currently available you could argue about that, but I digress…

Sorry, I meant dirty in the sense that I was just focusing on maximizing weight gain in order to increase my lifts while running NLP. My food is relatively clean - about 70-80 percent of my diet is single ingredient foods from pre-measured meals and the rest of the time I just sort of adhere to IIFYM, which definitely includes some junk.

  1. Rate of weight gain. I wouldn’t advise 4-5lbs per month unless you’re genetically gifted or on drugs. 1-2lbs per month would be more advisable.

I think this is my main problem, thanks.