Power snatch vs power clean for hypertrophy?

First of all, thank you guys for slaying it in terms of content production lately. The Flanagan podcast was flame af, its been swell to see you guys hitting your stride this year :slight_smile:

I am aware that the quick lifts are not efficient for hypertrophy, but I’d still like to know if the “trap gainzZz” jordan spoke of in this insta post Jordan Feigenbaum, MD, MS on Instagram: "On The Power Clean and Strength Training. # I sent out an informal poll to 40 coaches earlier this year asking them "What one exercise would you remove from the Starting Strength novice LP?" and the results were unanimous. People wanted to round file the power clean. # Be that as it may, I continue to find the power clean as a useful movement from a training economy standpoint provided one is <40 years of age (in general), is a novice, has access to some coaching via internet or in person, and has no ongoing pathology involving the lower limb or wrist. # Does performing the power clean (or sprints, snatches, jumps, etc.) actually increase power production? To an extent, sort of. It's more that they allow the athlete to display their power more efficiently through the movement they are training, i.e. Training the power clean improves ability to display power when doing the power clean. Yes, there is a general carryover from a lift or movement to "real life" and the more general the lift the more wide spread the adaptation. • It should also be stated that power production is increased when force production increases (getting stronger) or the time it takes to produce that force decreases (rate of force development. In a novice, the power clean does both until the novice becomes more "trained." # So what to do with this information? Well, I recommend doing the clean. It's pretty fun, the fatigue is low relative to the potential benefits, and I think it's reasonable to put it in periodically. It was pretty cool to take my power clean from 120 to 150kg with a few months of practice. Trap GainzZz were strong too! If you find you can't power clean or snatch due to any host of reasons that's okay, but give it a college try first. # 📸 by @nessoszast") would be less prominent if the trainee did Power snatches instead of power cleans. Since snatches are a little closer to the “speed” side of the speed-strength continuum, would you expect there to be a little less hypertrophy if power snatches were trained instead of PC? Or is the difference in bar speed simply not great enough that it would make sense to expect this?

Thanks!

I don’t think either are great for trap hypertrophy compared to exercises like deadlifts (and variations of), shrugs, and similar movements.

I almost never program power cleans or power snatches for trainees unless they require high velocity strength for a specific application, they’re an olympic lifter, or they otherwise won’t train.